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Why do Russians dislike Navalny and fear Democracy? Anonymous  10/07/21 Суб 20:55:40 85268 1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szyGOZZNfKU

Also, why do Russians seem to generally dislike and distrust America? Shifty as we may be we're not going to take away your autonomy like your own leader has.

If you use Iraq and Libya as exampes of the USA's failures, you realize causing chaos and striking terror there was the goal. They were revenge missions against leaders that had defied American hegemony or gotten Americans killed. Syria was never going to succeed, but it did scare Bashar and all the other dictators enough that they now behave and know their days are numbered. Honestly in the future we should just set up governer-generals like Macarthur in Japan for long periods of time after interventions

So what reason do you have to not join the free world Russiabros?
Anonymous  10/07/21 Суб 21:29:44 85270 2
>>85268 (OP)
nobody knows who navalny is in russia. hes just an internet meme and popular among moscows rich kids or degenerates.

russians dont like american goverment(jews) but like american people, white christian conservatives, working class blacks(not niggers and thugs)

also russians dont like russian goverment aswell. its complicated. so their no chance to cause a revolution in russia anytime soon. russians are immunized by western agents atempt to cause chaos.
Anonymous  10/07/21 Суб 22:20:18 85272 3
>>85268 (OP)
> Also, why do Russians seem to generally dislike and distrust America?
Because of the news.

Both the Russian news and the American news about Russia.

Don't you have anti-Russian and anti-Chinese sentiments when you read the news and listen to your politicians? I read what people on Reddit say, the news affect Americans as anyone else. They hate China with all their hearts, they want revenge for coronavirus and Uighurs, they are haunted with three scary letters CCP, - and all those comments are under a post about Chinese kids playing a ball in a subreddit that has nothing to do with politics.

The news and other media make us this way. They made you think there is more than one world, but we all live on the same planet.

We don't fear democracy and we don't consider ourselves unfree, and people here have different political views and different opinions as anywhere else what makes it pointless to answer the Navalny part. He is just not their cup of tea and he is not my cup of tea too, and I personally don't believe the presidential post means that much, you can elect a dog and things will still keep running the same.


By the way, you are wrong saying people dislike America. People are in love with America. They really are. Movies, TV shows, cartoons, books, games, music. We consume mostly American stuff, we want to speak fluent English, we love having English words on our clothes, we know all American celebrities, many would love to visit the United States.
Anonymous  10/07/21 Суб 23:46:01 85274 4
>>85272
Then why do you want to stop liberal democracy and American culture from spreading to the Middle East, Africa and Asia? Why are you against American interventions in countries like Syria?

Americans are anti-Russia/China because they don't want the authoritarianism that's present in your country and their's spreading here. Simple as that. Your oligarchs fear freedom because it means they would have to compete in the global market and wouldn't be able to rip off their natives anymore.

>we don't consider ourselves unfree

How are you not unfree when you've had the same leader forever and his enemies are openly assasinated. The president is a symbol of what tthe country stands for on the global stage. Does a Soviet era oligarch with a longstanding history of corruption really represent Russia all that well?
Anonymous  11/07/21 Вск 00:23:50 85275 5
>>85274
> Simple as that.
When I read too much news, it's simple to be anti-American. The US drops freedom bombs on civilians, puts more starvation sanctions on different countries, intervenes in new countries, spreads anti-Russian and anti-Chinese propaganda that creates more hatred in this world, i.e. does its usual thing for more profit and influence. Number of American military bases and American military expenses are stupidly absurd, and the NATO still exists and is expanding to the East.
> the same leader forever
American leaders promise to close the Guantanamo prison but never do it, so is there any difference if they change or not if they don't have a word in these matters? I feel bad this abomination is on Cuban soil, the country the US put an embargo for decades and decades despite that literally the whole world insists the US must end the embargo against Cuba.

The reason you think people dislike the US is that you are eager to discuss politics with them. You want to explain to people their views are wrong and your views are right, that you are free and they aren't. Don't. If you want people to say good things about your country, don't say bad things about theirs. You created this thread to persuade me my country is bad, what did you expect?

Your country has problems too, for example the police that shoots the poor dead is a big problem, and people will be happy to point this out when you try to tell them their country is bad and should be Americanized. In a free country you can criticize the work process and your superiors at work. Can you? In the USSR they could.
Anonymous  11/07/21 Вск 01:23:21 85276 6
>>85274
>Why are you against American interventions in countries like Syria?
you dunno much about russian foreign policy faggot
lurk Gerasimov's doctrine. his slides clearly represent why Russia joined in Syria. fuck liberal democracy
Anonymous  11/07/21 Вск 14:23:51 85297 7
>>85274
You think you are free because you choose between a Trump and a Biden. Dude, 75% chance you weren't free to keep your penis whole. And now you care about some old man's carrier more than about your penis, lmao.

In a free country, nobody performs surgery on you without medical need without your consent, unless "free" stands for "free to butcher".
Anonymous  11/07/21 Вск 14:41:45 85298 8
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How can orcs into democracy? Mordor was not a democratic institution.
Anonymous  11/07/21 Вск 19:33:20 85323 9
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Anonymous  12/07/21 Пнд 09:29:54 85349 10
>>85276
>lurk Gerasimov's doctrine
It is literally good old proxy war concept reiterated. The only new thing that it is officially recognised.
Anonymous  12/07/21 Пнд 09:36:17 85350 11
>>85274
>Why are you against American interventions in countries like Syria?
Secular dictator is better in any way imaginable than ragheads dictature.
Anonymous  12/07/21 Пнд 14:51:33 85356 12
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>>85268 (OP)
Navalny is not a politicaian, he is not a lawyer he is a leader yes and now is a criminal. I don't know why he doesn't want to involve in politics like Katz and his crew - from the bottom - municipal deputy - to gosduma to senate to mayor or governor to president. He wants to rule right here and now to be mayor of Moscow or president of Russia. It doesn't work like that. He is nothing and giving nothing. What is his political and economic prinicples? Fucking none other than put Putin and his friends in jail and stop "corruption".

America is selling "democracy" I get it, but we are not buying. All your former friends becomes dead or bombed or under a sanctions. America is not trustworthy, it cannot be bargained with, al it can do to put ultimatum on and if is answer is no then - death, bombs, troops and sanctions.

Fair business my ass. What about sanctions Trump put on every last man involved in gas pipe to Gayrope? Fucking put his greasy hand into free market and try to stop our pipe by any means he can openly. Is this your fair business? Then fuck you and your business and your democracy and your sucky murica.

I stand where I belong - in my free and fare GREAT RUSSIA PIDOR!!!!1 Pic strongly related.
Anonymous  12/07/21 Пнд 18:31:45 85360 13
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>>85298
On the contrary, humans and elves had kings. Orcs had elected leadership. Only the strongest were elected leaders.
Anonymous  12/07/21 Пнд 20:15:27 85363 14
>>85360
They even had culturally enforced mechanism of changing leader based on battle prowess - weak one gets deposed, killed and possibly eaten. Elves and Men were stuck with hereditary despotic rule.
Visit Numenor to witness result.
"What Numenor"?
EXACTLY my point.
Anonymous  12/07/21 Пнд 23:14:13 85366 15
>>85363
orcs are fungus, so its not bad to eat eachother.
Anonymous  13/07/21 Втр 01:40:11 85371 16
>>85367
More like enlightened elves.
Morgoth has taught them democracy. When totalitarian Valar learned about it, they were understandingly pissed off.
Anonymous  17/07/21 Суб 21:04:38 85642 17
>>85367
yes but i like to mix up things which are not related to eachother.
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 02:03:03 85654 18
>>85350
>Secular dictator is better in any way imaginable than ragheads dictature.
So how come Russia got both lol?
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 02:39:19 85659 19
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>>85268 (OP)
>fear of democracy
I think it's ok for people to be afraid of something they have never experienced
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 10:16:22 85663 20
>>85654
Nah, Assad is pretty secular. Real democratic opposition have been wiped out by govt and islamist "allies" in the first year of struggle, have fled or turned themselves in to Assad, and now it is ragheads backed by Turks and Americans vs. people who dont want to stone gals to death for too short skirts, backed by Iranians to spite Americans and by Russians to keep the last naval base in Mediterranean. Naval bases are serious business, we took Crimea after so much as speeches about kicking us out of Sevastopol ahead of planned 2017 withdrawal to Novorossiysk.

Why USA consistently backs up the baddies, be it french colonial lapdogs in Vietnam, ragheads in Middle east or Colombian narco state? May we get some support too considering they see us as basddies?
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 12:31:33 85669 21
>>85663
>Naval bases are serious business, we took Crimea after so much as speeches about kicking us out of Sevastopol ahead of planned 2017 withdrawal to Novorossiysk.
…a-a-and got kicked out of all the orgs/places you've even applied to join kek
imo not worth it
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 13:26:24 85671 22
>>85669
>…a-a-and got kicked out of all the orgs/places you've even applied to join
There were never our friends anyway.
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 13:57:29 85675 23
>>85671
>There were never our friends anyway.
Muh excuses bruh.
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 16:53:33 85686 24
>>85675
We learn from the best - the Americans. When national security is concerned, the rest of the world can go fuck itself.
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 16:54:58 85687 25
>>85675
Sroossian can't have friends, he is a rabid dog. The best thing to do is to put him down with two bullets in the head. I dream of leaving this gulag for good.
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 17:32:27 85696 26
>>85687
>Sroossian can't have friends, he is a rabid dog.
Is it your dad's name? Is he Armenian or what? What does he think about Artzah?
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 18:45:39 85703 27
>>85686
>We learn
You do not.
>When national security is concerned
It is not.
The only security being concerned here is the security of Putin's ass over the main guy's chair. Together with the security of all the Putin's friends positions, influence and new worth. Together with almost exactly the same regime in China.
Russia and China are governed by a militarized junta clans that have positioned themselves above the law. Their own laws do not concern them, they have rights, means, and - most importantly - the aims, which are very different from those of their people.
Their people are virtually powerless atm, with and Putin's gand & CCP being solely responsible for both countries wrongdoings in the past 10 years or so. Hence, Putin's gang and CCP are the enemies of the USA on the geopolitical matter - not the nation.
Putin's gov and CCP have nothing to do with their nations, their people, and their country - except for having them hostaged.
Anonymous  18/07/21 Вск 23:51:13 85720 28
>>85703
I agree except the hostage part. I mean he is a KGB agent. Two Socialist superpowers rampaged and killed Europeans. Germany went through de-Nazification, Russia never went through de-Communization. China never went through de-Communization either. The best option would be if the NATO alliance would be brave enough to execute what must be done. Russians collaborated with Communists, they worshipped Stalin, then they voted senselessly for a dictator, they agreed to participate in election manipulations, that is their responsibility that Russia became the threat number one to world peace. Major cities must be bombed with regular non-nuclear bombs to make these people understand they chose wrong. Don't stop bombardments until results are achieved. I don't see why the whole world must feel constant danger because of people of one country being irresponsible. Same thing must be done in China. Once cities are on fire, Russians and Chinese will start protesting against their criminal regimes, and democratic powers will come to power because people are fed up with dictatorship. That's enough. Russia can actually become a civilized country finally after centuries of Tsardom and serfdom and one century of Red Tsardom and serfdom. Same goes with China, no more death camps and Communism. Free Navalny. These people don't understand words, they only understand violence. Bombs will make them sober.
Anonymous  19/07/21 Пнд 08:57:52 85736 29
>>85703
>The only security being concerned here is the security of Putin's ass
So, Guantanabo Bay base guards Biden's ass? For sure americans can give it back oo Cubans?
Anonymous  19/07/21 Пнд 10:01:34 85738 30
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 06:58:13 86047 31
>>85703
You realize all of this applies here too, right?

Russia and China are just more honest about it. America's not a free country and hasn't been since early last century
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 06:59:43 86048 32
>>85720
Why would you wish this upon your own people?
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 11:14:05 86056 33
>>86051
I understand self loathing or even hating your country. I've lost track of how many times I've fumed at America for doing something cruel or stupid or for being a nation full of narcissists, but wishing for people to die horrific deaths to prove a point is something completely different. It just shows that you have a twisted heart.

The most I'd ever wish on America is for our true elite to be forced to show their faces and stand trial for the suffering they caused to us and the world at large
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 12:19:40 86059 34
>>86056
That's not about self-loathing or wishing someone death. The US and Britain bombed Dresden and other German cities during WWII, people who lived there elected the Nazi party. It worked, Nazis are gone. Belgrade was bombed in '99 for supporting Communism and ethnic war. It worked, Serbia is no more a Communist dictatorship. There is a discussion today whether Cuba should be bombed to help anti-Communist activists in their struggle for freedom, to make people realize something is wrong with their choices which threaten the rest of the world. Pay a small price to save billions of lives in the future (Communism kills over 100 million people a century). And here in Russia we need help too. People should realize they vote wrong and their country undermines democracy, freedom and peace not only internally but all around the world.
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 13:10:27 86065 35
>>86059
What if some country is actually able to bomb USA in retaliation to show wrongness of their ways?
Wait, USA does not pick fights with these countries.
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 14:19:46 86072 36
>>85268 (OP)
Because they don't like Soros puppets

>muh democracy
Lol do you still believe in that hoax? What a brainwashed retard
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 15:20:35 86080 37
>>86078
Are you brain dead or can't read? Pay a small price to prevent catastrophe. It's not destruction for the sake of destruction. People should understand their choices have consequences. For democracy, for freedom, for future of every person living on this planet.

If their employer tells them to vote for Edro and they do as asked, every act of Russian aggression is their fault. If they vote for Communists, they are even worse than the first ones because Communism historically proven to be a man-eating ideology. And bombs do the job, that's proven historically too. Sanctions don't, bombs do.
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 15:41:48 86082 38
>>86081
I never vote for those. And killing one guy won't deliver the message. Irina Slavina killed herself to fight the regime, the masses laughed at her and forgot her name in ten minutes after reading an article about her sacrifice.
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 16:23:28 86085 39
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>>86083
It's terrorist to vote for terrorist parties. Fighting terrorists is no terrorism. I'm no Pentagon, I can't do a thing to end wars Russia waged, stop numerous violations of human rights or free Navalny. The only thing I can do is to risk my life by posting the truth on 2ch and other sites. Dead person can't do that. If Americans actually stand with us on democracy and freedom, they shall show that to us with their deeds.
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 19:17:44 86091 40
>>86085
Our rulers decry yours because you aren't subverted by ours yet. Not because they want anything but for you to become consoomer slaves to global capitalism. America and Brirtain can't decide how Russians and Chinese think, so they try to bully you with "much Russia China ebil"

Democracy is an illusion. We are an oligarchy just like you. We're manipulated people who have owners. I went to school with the children of families who own America. They call us dehumanizing names like "poors" and view us as another asset to be traded and manipulated

Our elites envy Russia's oligarchy and especially China's level of control over their citizens. They don't want to change the level of totalitarianism, they just want to get rid of your current oligarchs and replace them with puppets. They give us the illusion of choice to keep us satisfied. Those who do sincerely believe they're brining you democracy are being used.

My government doesn't like wrongthinkers and whistleblowers any more than your's does. You know that I could be put on a blacklist just for posting here and on 4chan right? In the coming years I could face social persecution for talking to "Russian hackers," when those lists get leaked or if they call me a "white supremacist sympathizer"

One of the interns Bill Clinton sexually harased was murdered. The CIA agent who revealed that Britain and America lied about uranium in Iraq had his wife's (another CIA agent) cover blown as a threat. Journalists who revealed Iraq was built on lies were threatened by the fed.

You think this isn't just the tip of the iceberg? Remember Epstein and Maxwell? You know how they were forgotten by media and drowned out by BLM?

You see how Mossad is allowed to run around this country with impunity because of our relationship with Israel, and that seditious Zionists are given positions in the government? Do you want to become subsumed by the Anglo-American-Zionist axis? Because that's what democracy means; you're given the freedom to be controlled by America's rulers.

Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 19:35:52 86092 41
Anonymous  23/07/21 Птн 20:34:10 86095 42
>>86092
Выкопать Сталина, положить в мавзолей, приходит на него молиться и целовать дальше Путина в очко!
Anonymous  24/07/21 Суб 15:23:17 86115 43
>>85268 (OP)
You just answered your own question, we don't wanna end up like Iraq and Libya. It's not even about democracy freedom and all that silly populist crap.
Let's say we surrender to america and Navalny is the president, then what? We'll be drowning in poverty and civil wars. Also possibly there won't even be Russia as we know it today, it will be like 12 small shithole countries instead, all at war with each other and also against Belarus, Kazakhstan etc. And of course our new masters will throw us against China, we might gain america's support but it will be strictly verbal support.
Tbh, right now i'm not even against this scenario cause theres just too many dumbfucks out there, and if they want it so bad then fuck em, death for all, let the closest star explode, it won't affect me
Anonymous  25/07/21 Вск 11:55:53 86135 44
analny is just another crime scam sucker.
Anonymous  25/07/21 Вск 12:25:29 86136 45
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>>86135
I don't know about that. It looks like the government wants us to sympathize with him. They put big effort to make him look a martyr, that was all over the news too. They probably want to make him the next president. That would ease tension between the governments, since the Western media also advertised him a lot. That would also be a rise of ethnic hatred, since Navalny openly hates many peoples that aren't Western or Slavic. This government wants us to be nationalist and religious, so that is the next step backwards to monarchy.
Anonymous  25/07/21 Вск 13:39:55 86138 46
>>86137
You think it wasn't thought through? He was disrespectful towards a Putin's court. It was brave and beautiful.
Anonymous  25/07/21 Вск 15:48:37 86142 47
>>86136
He just the fucking clown youtube bloger with no experience in politics with weak program of actions. He can suggest nothing, all he wants to put Putin and his team in jail and stop corruption. This type of opposition is what Kremlin wants to be in media. Fucking idiot with funny videos and with no deeds only bullshit in social media.

Katz did more in politic then fucking Navalny. He put together team of strong people and help win them election, now oppposition has presence in dumas accros Russia. Now he aim for Gosduma. Did Navalny help him? Fuck no, Katz is rediska and making real politicas, clown Navalny do not want it.
Anonymous  25/07/21 Вск 17:43:18 86148 48
>>86145
Yes, but that veteran was a Putin's veteran who appeared in a Putin's commercial. I remember people saying online about Valentina Tereshkova that it's good that Yuri Gagarin died young. She is the first woman in space and a hero of the Soviet Union, and that's the treatment she gets. If they want you to love Navalny in 2024, you'll love Navalny and hate that Putin's veteran with all your heart, propaganda works wonders.
Anonymous  27/07/21 Втр 18:04:16 86232 49
>>85268 (OP)
Navalny is an attention whore who has the stupidest policy agenda (which I bet you don't even know what it is)

His only claim to fame is constantly pretending to be a victim of various self-orchestrated BS

Nobody wants a circus clown for a president
Anonymous  28/07/21 Срд 01:12:56 86251 50
>>85268 (OP)
I personally like him and would vote for him, but he made a critical mistake.

He never denounced CIA or unitedstatia in general.

No matter how you look at things US is a hostile imperialist entitiy, democracy or no democracy. Simply because we are an imperailist entity ourselves.

If he did follow the narrative, he would not be in jail, and his party userbase would be 1)larger 2)not as soy as it is 3)not in jail 4) would occupy political spectrum between Prilepin's gay pride and Yavlinsky gay monastery, replacing them both while being based.

tl;dr should have gone big with fascists or gone home
Anonymous  28/07/21 Срд 04:10:39 86256 51
>>85272
> people here have different political views and different opinions
Yet, they never managed to change the governor and the ruling party.
Anonymous  28/07/21 Срд 13:20:15 86278 52
>>86256
We do have different views and opinions, but there is something most of us agree about. Vladimir Putin either should start a new dynasty or bring Romanovs back to power. We brought our flag and the two-headed eagle back. What's left: a royal family, a new anthem instead of the Communist one, our old borders. That's the only way to survive through the leftist vegan homo transgender refugee nigger soyboy armageddon.
Anonymous  31/07/21 Суб 02:05:48 86458 53
>>85274
>Muh liberal democracy good
>Muh foreign interventionism and neocohen forever wars in the sandbox are good
>Dying for israel is good
>Muh nation building is good
>Muh global markets and internationalist capitalism are good
Mother of god, stop giving this country an even worse reputation than it already has. No one under 50 on the left or the right believes in neoliberalism or neoconservatism anymore, how could you unironically advocate for such braindead boomer views?
Anonymous  04/08/21 Срд 07:27:35 86604 54
>>85274
In US you have only two fucking political parties who rule two hundred of years (the third party was just couple of times). And all the rulers are from fucking sects of freemasons and paramasons. Don't tell that freemasons have no political influence at all and that they are freethinkers with liberal views, who only play medieval games. First of all, It's a religious group, it means they have separate groups who have political influence and also they have clowns who don't have power at all.

So their believes form a separate group with influence, because they are in big politics. Let's think what means religion, it means lack of logic and abuse of other people with dogmatic views. That's why America always spreads its dogmatic shit to other countries and thinks it's democracy and greatest good. The same thing was when Catholic church burnt people and was thinking about God's sake and highest blessing.
Anonymous  04/08/21 Срд 11:46:57 86613 55
>>86604
>paramasons.
That's people who... dont know really... get paradropped into remote areas to build stone houses for the locals? That sounds like a noble work, just like forest firefighter paratroopers, we have ones here in Russia.
Anonymous  04/08/21 Срд 20:03:50 86624 56
>>86613
they all are proxy freemasons, who do all the dirty work, remember P2 masonic lodge scandal in Italy ? Mr. Albert Pike was member of the Scottish rite and one of founders of the KKK, which is actually a freemason organization.
Anonymous  05/08/21 Чтв 23:43:12 86683 57
>>85270
Based, but

>hes just an internet meme and popular among moscows rich kids or degenerates.
Don't be deceitful. He is supported not only by the young. People just need hope.

T. I don't like Navalny
Anonymous  07/08/21 Суб 10:14:25 86725 58
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>>86624
wow russian paratroopers are masons
Anonymous  07/08/21 Суб 13:42:32 86731 59
>>86725
They don't have assfucking rituals (only assfucking sometimes), which change their military rank every time and they don't have separate organisation with some political influence.
But KKK is a masonic organisation (boyscouts also), because it has its own rites, same degrees as freemasonry has and freemasonic origin.

So masonry is a religious sect with political influence, remember this. It is ruling America 200 years, people of America have no choice...
Anonymous  07/08/21 Суб 14:51:24 86733 60
Anonymous  07/08/21 Суб 14:53:58 86734 61
>>86731
I missed somehow how stonework is connected with world government, explain pls.

Do Americans owe theit light houses sweeped by tornados to mason conspiracy too? They did something wrong and no more stonework for them?
Anonymous  09/08/21 Пнд 00:03:23 86764 62
>>86734
Well, as I said freemasonry is a form of religion, it can be compared with Christianity with many people involved, for example: there are good catholics, who support ideas of the Chtistianity and don't think anything bad, but Church has its dark power, shadow bussiness on another side, inquisition, persecution of heretics and etc. But when people talk about freemasonry, they don't think it's a religion, so they don't see the main idea, the Great Plan.

About stonework.
Freemasonry is divided, it has lodges in many countries, but also it has Great Plan, which has symbolic representation in architecture, many architects were freemasons actually. In 1776 Novus Ordo Seclorum was declared, but the Pyramid (see one dollar image) was not completed. This work means political and social actions and will be represented in architecture, paintings, songs and etc.

Its a religious sect and it has its own rules, it can be called cryptoreligion with cryptocracy. That's it.
Anonymous  09/08/21 Пнд 16:36:57 86789 63
>>86764
What have you heard about irrefutable and unprovable things?
Anonymous  11/08/21 Срд 00:37:35 86816 64
>>85268 (OP)
There is really no democratic tradition in Russia. Surfage and communism has done a "great" job at creating slave mentality.

People fear freedom of choice for some schizoid reasons. For example people you've met ITT seem to unironically believe that becoming democratic means siding with West and not just changing political system for more efficient one.

Otherwise it's a fear that Russia will turn into something they don't want it to be, so they'd rather stay cucked by Putin then give others ability to affect political course.

Navalny per se is not really a politician but rather a point of consolidation for opposition, well used to be. His views may not align with vast majority of those who support him non the less they support him still because the ultimate goal is to dismantle the regime. Plans of reforms are not strictly necessary now.
Anonymous  20/08/21 Птн 20:29:49 87143 65
Democracy is a system run by midwits. It is not an efficient system of progress. It also opens your country to foreign influence, and destroys culture and tradition.
Anonymous  20/08/21 Птн 20:39:53 87144 66
>>87143
It's runned by the sect of fucking freemasons
Anonymous  20/08/21 Птн 20:44:43 87145 67
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>>87143
Easy to say for someone who hasn't lived under Stalin's boot.
Anonymous  20/08/21 Птн 22:15:00 87149 69
>>87146
I agree, Stalinism was not easy to live with. But there has to be a middle ground between living under boots of stalin and under boots of a tranny state.
Anonymous  20/08/21 Птн 22:50:02 87155 70
>>87144
everyone is a mason in politics.
Anonymous  20/08/21 Птн 23:21:23 87160 71
>>85275
>it's simple to be anti-American.
dont forget they are the source of all degeneracy in west. like virus they spread their cancer agenda to world. lgbt, blm, atheism, promiscuous-hedonistic lifestyle. they fucked up with libya iraq syria afghanistan created modern age Migration Period with millions of people migrating europe (you can blame eurocucks to accept them also)
Anonymous  22/04/22 Птн 18:17:47 97658 72
>>85268 (OP)
Navalniy is a liberal monkey,with no political expirience
Anonymous  24/04/22 Вск 06:19:06 97725 73
>>85268 (OP)
Navalny is not a democrat. His whole plan consists of a list of those whom he will punish and nothing else positive.
Anonymous  24/04/22 Вск 13:58:54 97736 74
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>>85268 (OP)
He is just a degenerate, to whom no one cares, except for the metropolitan zoomers. His program is crap. His team is crap. His only achievements are his investigations, which are obviously not his personal merit, but the merit of the Western intelligence services. And if initially he tried to flirt with Russian nationalism, as soon as it became completely dangerous, he changed his shoes into a left-liberal. For most Russians, he looks like a clown, and people who support him only emphasize this status. Now his team, for example, literally openly declares that we will wipe the toilets with the current Russian flag after they win. An incredibly pitiful sight. Alas, in Russia there is no opposition as such. Personally, I am impressed, for example, by Roman Yuneman, but he looks like a weak politician, he does not look like someone who can take power into his own hands and keep it.

> If you use Iraq and Libya as exampes of the USA's failures
The example of Ukraine, which has become a success of US hegemony, is enough for me. And it turned into even more shit than it was originally. And I'm not talking about the consequences of our operation. If the United States did not interfere in foreign countries, there would be much more order. But I have no hatred for your country. This is the merit of the Democratic Party of all the shit that is happening now.
Anonymous  14/05/22 Суб 07:18:36 98852 75
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>>85720
THIS IS CORRECT. EVERYONE HERE IS A FUCKING RETARD. KILL THEM ALL
Anonymous  14/05/22 Суб 14:16:15 98863 76
A quick reminder that russians are thieves, rapists and murderers!
15/05/22 Вск 00:11:11 98878 77
>>85268 (OP)
If you are moron you fear thing you don't understand. Ruzzians are commies for decades. They don't know what freedom means.
Anonymous  15/05/22 Вск 02:50:38 98879 78
Anonymous  15/05/22 Вск 11:02:43 98884 79
>>86091
>They call us dehumanizing names like "poors" and view us as another asset to be traded and manipulated

Do you actually think poor people care ? HAHAHAHAHAH.

These poor people that you are victimizing would be the first ones to accept anything for money. Literally anything. If they are offered a position in your parliament to participate inside a money laundering scheme, they will accept. I have no doubt.

Poverty culture is not the culture of Lamentation, but the culture of VANITY, an absplute ugly vanity infested the ranks of the poor.

How do I know that ? Look at Brazil. If Brazil's poverty (favelas, uncultured working class) were broadcasted for the whole world to watch it, they would hate this shithole so fucking much.

I bet they would want to bomb this fucking country so much that they would forgot their hate for Russians and the Chinese.

This country is an abomination of poverty, of UGLY poverty, suffocated by UGLY vanity and UGLY NATIONAL and GLOBALIZED consumerism.

It is absolute fucking madness to think that the "Government of the People" is anything but madness corrupted humanism.

Poor people and the Working Class never read any fucking literature, never read a single fucking book other than something to pass exams and get their job positions.

It is a complete cultureless abomination.

Same could be said of India, China.. just broadcast poverty of X,Y,Z third world countries on TV, and let the bombardment begin.

Freedom in relation to poverty = mutilated country without morals and ethics.

Anonymous  15/05/22 Вск 11:08:12 98885 80
>>85268 (OP)
He is not about "democracy", only destruction of state, robbery of budget for mimself and long-long list of those who will be get his revenge (most of Russian population)
Anonymous  16/05/22 Пнд 14:14:53 98936 81
>>85268 (OP)
ONE THREAD PER QUESTION PLEASE!!!

Navalny = some pimple out of nowhere.
Anonymous  17/05/22 Втр 17:06:13 98980 82
>>85268 (OP)
Why we need to like amercian agent? We have good libertarians, which are just not famous
Anonymous  18/05/22 Срд 00:37:05 98995 83
>>85268 (OP)
Could you please fuck off and keep away from our internal affairs, amerrimut? Or we will elect someone worse than Trump for you next time.
Anonymous  18/05/22 Срд 00:43:29 98996 84
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>>98995
>Could you please fuck off and keep away from our internal affairs,
Why invade Ukraine then?
>amerrimut
Rich coming from a russian ork
>Elect someone else than Trump
At least in their country they have the right to elect anyone they want. How's the next decade with Pynya going? GL with watching your economy sink like it always has since 2014 lmao.
Anonymous  18/05/22 Срд 00:56:51 98997 85
>>98996
>Why invade Ukraine then?
It is our internal affair.
>At least in their country they have the right to elect anyone they want.
They have not. We choose american presidents as we please.
Anonymous  18/05/22 Срд 01:16:31 98999 86
>>98997
Lol, so raiding an independent country is your affair? Russian whatboutism is absolutely strong with this homocommando.
Anonymous  18/05/22 Срд 13:12:05 99036 87
Noone with IQ higher than 70 would classify invading sovereign countries as internal affair. :D Same people think everyone wants to invade Russian wasteland.
Anonymous  18/05/22 Срд 23:58:35 99054 88
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>>85268 (OP)
>dislike and distrust America?
because TV lol, and to be honest, there are a lot of people in Navalny's team who are calling on the EU to impose new sanctions, which the people perceive as hostility to him. Navalny himself called for sanctions against Putin's associates, not the country. he good, but him team not his not patriot, he is "demshizа"
>own leader has.
we want a great Russia and an independent judging by the dialogues of my parents and I agree with them
In constitutional crisis 1993 you did not support the parliament,this already shows that everything is exactly for democracy for you
>Syria
Bashar was better islamic, its mideast It's always been like this and there's nothing we can do about it, The rebels that you support are the same radicals as ISIS, they cut their heads in the same way if Assad wins, at least there will be peace than an endless war its better.
>Honestly in the future we should just set up governer-generals like Macarthur in Japan for long periods of time after interventions
this is the deprivation of autonomy and interference in domestic politics
>So what reason do you have to not join the free world Russiabros?
democracy sucks we want RNG or monarchy
Anonymous  19/05/22 Чтв 00:18:18 99055 89
>>85274
> American culture
because we want our culture
> American interventions
have you asked the people of this country? did they ask you for help? did they want you to come?
>oligarchs
its not "oligarchs" its a communist scum that has no power over Putin, on the contrary, they completely depend on him.
>unfree
rwe understand freedom in a different way, democracy or dictatorship does not matter if a certain person is not prevented from living, then this is enough
Anonymous  19/05/22 Чтв 00:27:15 99056 90
>>85276
>urk Gerasimov's doctrine
did you read it yourself or did you hear on TV what it is?
Anonymous  19/05/22 Чтв 08:41:34 99071 91
Anonymous  20/05/22 Птн 00:05:54 99109 92
They are afraid coz theyr gay
Anonymous  20/05/22 Птн 18:32:16 99144 93
>>85268 (OP)
>dislike
ukrainian shill
>why
the same reason we DISLIKE AOC
Anonymous  23/05/22 Пнд 14:20:35 99341 94
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>>85270
>nobody knows who navalny is in russia. hes just an internet meme and popular among moscows rich kids or degenerates.
>
>russians dont like american goverment(jews) but like american people, white christian conservatives, working class blacks(not niggers and thugs)
>
>also russians dont like russian goverment aswell. its complicated. so their no chance to cause a revolution in russia anytime soon. russians are immunized by western agents atempt to cause chaos.
Anonymous  01/06/22 Срд 02:54:46 99690 95
Russians hate America only because of propaganda, and that is far from all. America is hated by propagandists and power, but they don’t even hate America, they hate the whole free world, because in the free world the authorities are elected and the authorities can be criticized, but these want to be the God on earth.
The only reason why Putin started a war with Ukraine is the lust for power and money, and revenge for the Maidan. He really does not like that in a neighboring country the authorities are elected as in the United States.
Anonymous  01/06/22 Срд 03:07:03 99691 96
>>99054
> democracy sucks we want RNG or monarchy
No, thank. Most Russians want democracy(Sergei Furgal and Yevgeny Roizman are the main prooves of this).
And it seems you're a son of one of the Puler's entourage, that's why you don't want democracy.
Anonymous  01/06/22 Срд 04:47:04 99693 97
PLZ SPEKA ENGLISCH
Anonymous  01/06/22 Срд 04:47:39 99694 98
ENGLISCH LANGUAGE
Anonymous  01/06/22 Срд 09:04:46 99696 99
>>99691
Is there anything that we - anons abroad - can do to help you fellow ruskis on your path towards democracy?
Anonymous  01/06/22 Срд 14:00:34 99700 100
>>85268 (OP)
i do not think they dislike and distrust the US.
Most of them would sell their babushkas for a greencard.
Regular Europeans would just say no thanks.
Anonymous  03/06/22 Птн 02:31:17 99794 101
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Navalny betrayed Russian Referendum.
He is just another internazi.
There's no redemption for him.
Anonymous  22/06/22 Срд 12:52:04 100443 102
>>85268 (OP)
Democracy evil propoganda ussr. Most russian born ussr. And they real belive ussr propogand. Navalny supports democracy so he is agent west government.

Anonymous  24/06/22 Птн 15:28:49 100491 103
He has shaking tits
Anonymous  24/06/22 Птн 16:57:08 100492 104
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Anonymous  26/06/22 Вск 20:59:42 100510 105
>>100492
It propaganda most soviet citizen did not know, about that. Because in the cold war began propaganda against america.

Anonymous  26/06/22 Вск 22:09:52 100511 106
>>98878
not all Russians are communists
Anonymous  27/06/22 Пнд 00:36:30 100517 107
>>100510
Didn't know about what? These are posters from the Soviet era and they are clearly favoring democracy, none of them says democracy is evil. Doesn't it make your previous statement here >>100443 false? It was time when a random female tractor driver could have a word in her republic's affairs. Now, all that common folk have is the option to fuck off.
Anonymous  27/06/22 Пнд 04:40:37 100522 108
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>>85268 (OP)
Navalnyi is a FSB-plot. He is a plan-B in case everything goes to shit, and the relations to West must be restored immediately.

Prove me wrong. (Please do, I want to believe in Navalnyi.)
Anonymous  27/06/22 Пнд 14:15:11 100525 110
>>100517
Fuck off commi. Poster 1917 year. Real communism fear democracy because, usa democracy country.
Anonymous  27/06/22 Пнд 14:49:26 100526 111
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>>100525
> Poster 1917 year
You don't know what 1917 is, huh? Are you stupid? It's not the year when the poster was drawn, it's the year of the October Revolution.

You falsely claimed Soviet propaganda was saying "democracy evil", I proved you wrong.
Anonymous  30/06/22 Чтв 13:26:43 100587 112
I hate Navalny. He has big tits and he turned opposition into clowns.
Anonymous  15/09/22 Чтв 05:31:33 103574 113
Democracy means the Globohomo USA ruling the world and owning all the world money and digital money.

I hate Democracy.

Fight, Russia!!!
Anonymous  15/09/22 Чтв 09:05:21 103579 114
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>>100524
hes russian facist playing liberal. same like jelzin playing the west bein a drunk.
15/09/22 Чтв 09:19:29 103581 115
Путин - это лучшее, что было с Россией за последнее тысячелетие. Мы должны беречь его.
Anonymous  15/09/22 Чтв 09:32:24 103582 116
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>>103581
я так недумаю, просто русский народ силный и путину повезло что он руководит таким народом.

один в поле не воин, unless its red tarzan
Anonymous  15/09/22 Чтв 14:24:19 103590 117
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>>85720
>I agree except the hostage part. I mean he is a KGB agent. Two Socialist superpowers rampaged and killed Europeans. Germany went through de-Nazification, Russia never went through de-Communization. China never went through de-Communization either. The best option would be if the NATO alliance would be brave enough to execute what must be done. Russians collaborated with Communists, they worshipped Stalin, then they voted senselessly for a dictator, they agreed to participate in election manipulations, that is their responsibility that Russia became the threat number one to world peace. Major cities must be bombed with regular non-nuclear bombs to make these people understand they chose wrong. Don't stop bombardments until results are achieved. I don't see why the whole world must feel constant danger because of people of one country being irresponsible. Same thing must be done in China. Once cities are on fire, Russians and Chinese will start protesting against their criminal regimes, and democratic powers will come to power because people are fed up with dictatorship. That's enough. Russia can actually become a civilized country finally after centuries of Tsardom and serfdom and one century of Red Tsardom and serfdom. Same goes with China, no more death camps and Communism. Free Navalny. These people don't understand words, they only understand violence. Bombs will make them sober.
Anonymous  15/09/22 Чтв 15:42:23 103595 118
Anonymous  15/09/22 Чтв 15:44:11 103596 119
>>100587
Opposition? Do you mean the Defenestrated Party?
15/09/22 Чтв 15:45:23 103597 120
>>103595
Для Финляндии? Безусловно.
Anonymous  22/09/22 Чтв 11:08:50 103896 121
Russia wants FREEDOM.
Anonymous  23/09/22 Птн 00:46:28 103957 122
Russians hate GLOBOHOMO USA.
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