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Аноним # OP 03/02/20 Пнд 21:07:04 2129092921
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Надо кароц про панк движуху в России
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:08:33 2129094122
>>212909292 (OP)
Долбаеб ну так в переводчике перведи , или у тебя с фантазией проблемы хуесос ебаный мать твою ебал
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:10:13 2129095323
пошел нахуй
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:10:31 2129095534
давай мне английский делай уебан
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:12:24 2129096805
>>212909292 (OP)
Well, this is a long story to tell.
Sit down kids, will talk about punk movement in Russia and USSR
Записываешь, пионэр?
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:13:12 2129097496
так точно дяденька
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>>212909292 (OP)
Посмотри это кинцо. На ютубе лежит бесплатно.
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:15:53 2129099448
смотрел
надо еще кого нибудь припаять не только Летовым богаты
03/02/20 Пнд 21:16:52 2129100159
>>212909292 (OP)
>Надо кароц про панк движуху в России
Okay, i begin to talk about OP dick and sage to this thread!
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:17:09 21291004210
Most popular punk musicants its Egor Letov, Korol and Shut, Sektor Gaza, Alice, Red Plesen. All punks listen this grups. Yes
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:18:47 21291015511
Korol and shut
punks

03/02/20 Пнд 21:18:48 21291015812
>>212909292 (OP)
As it is already clearly known, punk is not about music, it is more about expressions and drive, even a performance can be considered as a part of punk culture.
Assuming this we can say that first Russian punk representative is Vladimir Mayakovsky with his provocative behavior and specific poetry focused around the accent and rhythm.
Sorry, this was a joke.
After him there was a long silence, however in between of 70-80th of XX cent the "real" punk culture became to leak through the Iron curtain to USSR.
So the story begins..
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:19:27 21291020513
Punks in Russia were persecuted due to the rejection by the Russians of Western protest against the system. Therefore, now this culture is almost extinct.
03/02/20 Пнд 21:19:55 21291024414
So i begin my esse about modern punk movements, there all is cancer and need to get destroyed, that is all what i want to talk, thanks for reading my esse.
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:20:11 21291026615
ща паддажи
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Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:21:12 21291033817
охлади своё траханье
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:22:15 21291041718
>>212910дорогу покажешь уебок?
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:22:29 21291043519
03/02/20 Пнд 21:23:42 21291053020
Жирній зелений соси хуй
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:23:59 21291055121
насчёт янки согласен
а вот хой элемент интересный
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>>212910158
сэнк ю мозерфакер ю сон оф бич
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:27:59 21291082727
>>212910787
вы наци? вы наци? да наци
если вы наци идите нахуй
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:28:44 21291088528
fet
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Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:38:17 21291153331
>>212910885
что что ты хочешь что то сказать
03/02/20 Пнд 21:40:47 21291170132
>>212910158
I dont want to touch groups from deep past we will talk about well known figures.
Num one: "Automated satisfiers". SPB former Leningrad
In two words, this is a very weirdly translated "Sex Pistols"
Founded by Andrew Panov, son of dancer, was a pure punk band where not all of member knew how to hold a music instruments but everyone had plenty of energy, motivation and shit in heads.
Groups leader was also know as a person with limitless amount of provocative surprises for everyone surrounding him and lets nor details, they are very very specific.
Most known hits are "Deltaplan" and "Батька атаман", song which is now for some strange reason is considered to be a song of White Resistance during Civil war in Russia.

"Civil defence" (GROB Granshdanskaya oborona)
Egor Letov
Most known representative of so called "Siberian rock wave".
Band which is considered as a "face of old school Russian punk".
Known for its specific "dirty and overdrive' garage sound and psychodelic effects combining with aggressive texts containing plenty of expressionism and provocative messages like references to ideas of Chuchkhe, russian nationalism, facizm, holocaust and other things which usually noone like to discuss in society.
However, these ideas were not propagated in GROB's lyrics, but more as an instrument of expressing feelings and anger in songs.
USSR authorities did not understood this deep cultural efforts, so the band's leader spent few year in mental clinic. In general, fans consider that this impacted to his songs and music determining the nature of several albums and considered to be an important part of of timeline of a group .


Ну чо, писать дальше?

Янка-хуянка там, прибалты.
03/02/20 Пнд 21:41:46 21291176033
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:45:58 21291201534
>>212911701
записан в коммунисты пока каранддашом
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:46:26 21291204835
>>212911701
Punk came to the Soviet Union with a slight delay compared to other genres of music
punk rock in Western countries appeared on the scene in 1976 then in the Soviet Union records sex pistols and clash appear on the black market in 1977
If rock was in the Soviet Union underground (then only Vocal and Instrumental Ensembles were legal) then punk rock was underground in the square Communist punk rock carried new values instead of an endless riot as did the brothers from England
Soviet punk culture of the 80's reinterpreted and interpreted Western punk rock under socialist realities
Punk rock in the West was a marginal movement mainly focused on youthful maximalism but in the Soviet Union it became a movement of dissidents and intellectuals
In Russia there were two centers of rock: Leningrad (Leningrad rock club) and Siberia where there was no definite center of rock it was in Sibir that punk rock became almost a popular movement in contrast to Leningrad where punk was only a small hobby. Why Siberia? If Leningrad became more free in the 80's then in Siberia there was a strong pressure of the authorities and the stronger the pressure the stronger the opposition
Albums were recorded on magnetic tape since the state Studio Melodiya had a monopoly on records because of this the magnetic albums came out with very poor sound quality which only played into the hands of punk artists
The key performer of Russian punk was Yegor (Igor) Letov. the First significant performance took place at the first Novosibirsk rock festival.
After a few months as Yegor was released from the mental hospital (Soviet dissidents were sent to compulsory treatment) , he, along with the like-minded Leshchenko brothers, created the satirical group Adolf Hitler
There was confusion at the festival and the band got on stage and the band got on stage
"After the first songs played, the "officials" sitting in the front rows simply fell into a state of stupor. The sarcasm of the songs was completely misunderstood by the jury. Its members were sure that they saw before them on the stage, the most that neither is the real fascists, calling young people to the ideals sung by Goebbels. Letovsky's songs included in the performance struck everyone with their violent fervor, their fierce anti-militaristic power. The hall was literally raging and going mad. But when Yegor became in a frenzy and with wild laughter shouted at the entire Palace of culture: "I'm funny at you, the country of fools!"that was too much. The equipment was turned off and the group was actually driven off the stage. So the Soviet Union learned about Civil Defense, and the country went for a walk expression: "Punk rock existed in the USSR only 20 minutes - during the performance of "Defense" in Novosibirsk. Everything else is post-punk!".
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:48:24 21291216536
>>21291>>212911701
про Адольф Гитлер набросал лишнего
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:54:36 21291252637
>>212912165
Эй, брат Любер! Где твой кастет?
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:55:05 21291255538
>>212911701
про король и шут надо все таки написать
и сектор газа
03/02/20 Пнд 21:55:14 21291256439
>>212912048
Yanka Diagileva.
Well, she is considered to be a figure in punk, but lets say in more simple way. If Janis Joplin had to be born in Siberia than it will be the same phenomena.
Her songs are close to russian folk singing tradtions and sound of later "british invasion". Very depp and rich language constructions are combined with depressive texts full of negative feelings and "no way to run" concept. Part of her songs were recorded with GROB.
Дальше про нее вам писать нельзя РКН запретил


03/02/20 Пнд 21:56:06 21291261540
>>212912555
Дале будет.
Это же новейшая история.
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 21:57:59 21291272741
>>212912564
успел а то я с вики чуть не скатал
03/02/20 Пнд 22:01:42 21291294042
>>212912564
>depp
deep

Well finalizing the early wave of punk in USSR we need to mention "Muchomory"(Amanita).
These group of artists from SPB had nothing in common with music, but were known for their provocative paintings, happenings, performances and jokes like sending telegrams to Margaret Thatcher with demands to go away from Falkland islands(during british occupation of them).
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:02:34 21291299443
>>212912940
лучше про инструкцию по выживанию написать
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:03:30 21291305644
>>212912564
>дженис жоплин
а ты в теме анон
я думал один нашел такое сходство))))))))))
03/02/20 Пнд 22:03:54 21291308745
>>212912994
Не, ну это ж в школку сочинение.
Ща, анон такой придет на инглиш и ебанет им там всю историю руспанка в трех томах на 5 часов под циклодол, ага.
Тада точно двач закроют
03/02/20 Пнд 22:04:44 21291314346
>>212913056
Это многие отмечают.
Тот же фолк с поправкой на широты и атмосферку.
Плюс талант же.
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:07:25 21291330047
>>212913087
Hello today i reading course of lectures about russian punk....
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:08:30 21291337448
>>212909292 (OP)
King and Joker,
Civil Defence,
Gasa Strip,
Mongol Shudan,
XXX Videos,
Last Tanks in the Paris.
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Панк был в России ровно 30 минут вро время концерта Гражданской обороны в Новосибирске...
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:09:11 21291341650
>>212913087
с советской эпохой разобрались теперь шо по лихим 90-ым
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>>212913400
А потом чо? Пост-панк начался?
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Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:17:24 21291394058
Оп, расскажешь про "Монгол Шуудан"?
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:18:09 21291398559
>>212913087
аноны надо по сектору газа и кишу написать
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Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:19:23 21291406562
>>212913940
ПОЗВОНЯТ В ЦЕНТР ПО ПРОТИВОДЕЙСТВИЮ ЭКСТРЕМИЗМУ
МАМКИН АНАРХИСТ
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:20:05 21291410763
>>212914034
Ты что, из этих, ну, комиссаров? Или, еще хуже, из белых???
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:20:32 21291414064
>>212913940
а в принципе можно
КиШ Сектор и монгол шуддан
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>>212914150
Ага, вот и попался, метагллист.
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03/02/20 Пнд 22:23:00 21291429270
>>212912940


In late USSR and early years after its fall, following groups can be marked.
Sektor Gaza, founded by Juri Klinskich this group is known for it's satirical texts with lots of obsolete language, sometimes done in form of covers of world known hits. One of such example is a "rock-opera" converting the russian folk tale to a musical form.

Similar but more primitive project was "Krasnaya plesen", also can be considered as punk, however they are closer to traditions of irish pub songs.

Modern era:
Tarakany(Roaches) -- band from Moscow. Well, if you heard at least any Offspring tracks, this is same shit thing but with Russian texts. An thats all, folks.

"King and Joker", yes, here they are.
Most known band of latest wave of pop and post punk in Russia.
And the reason why punks are treated as morons(say cheers to their fans)
But, in my humble opinion these guys are not a punk but something more close to Alice Cooper "shock rock" concept and King Diamond dark tales. For being a punk band they have too much proper constructions in text and more professional level of music than usual punk have to have.
However if nowadays you will say "punk" in Russia 90% of associations will be with these guys.
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:23:21 21291431071
>>212914198
Залупился тебе за щеку, проверяй.
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Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:30:25 21291472073
>>212914310
БАТЬКО СПАСИБО!!!!!!!!!
АНГЛ СДЕЛАН
АНГЛИЧАНКА БУДЕТ В ШОКЕ!!!!!!!!
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:31:33 21291478574
>>212914720
Молодчина! Такое только русский мог придумать!!!
03/02/20 Пнд 22:33:05 21291488275
>>212914292
At the end i want to repeat what i told at the beginning of the text.
Punk it is not a music as a skill or misuc genre, it is a form of very fast and strong expression of things which are annoying people sometimes even on a border of mental health.
And aggression feelings of course, somethings we all have them.

In USA it was formed under the circumstances of economical depression(IT WAS NOT GREAT DEPRESSION, zoomers) and no feeling of good future in teenage culture.
In USSR this culture appeared as a reaction to a government's attempts for mind control of citizens and artificial life of "builders of communism". And we do not need to forget giant literature heritage of complexity of Russian language which made "Russian punk" something really different from what world know as "punk"
As it was told in one historical punk fenzine "F, G, C. OK, man, you know chords, now form your group"

Thank you for attention.

Fuck all of you, bastards
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Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:34:36 21291497977
>>212914882
добродвач ебаный
снимаю скупую слезу
Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:36:03 21291507778
>>212914966
это мой первый тред на два.че неожидал что он будет таким душевным
спасибо аноны вы сделаи мою домашку и мой день
03/02/20 Пнд 22:37:59 21291519779
>>212915077
Незачто. Блох из текста вычисти, я там буквы накосячил в паре мест.
>>212914979
хехе, посибо
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Аноним 03/02/20 Пнд 22:45:39 21291562182
>>212909292 (OP)
Открываем Лурк и используем переводчик. Лень? Нахуй с борды.
03/02/20 Пнд 22:46:27 21291567183
>>212915621
>Открываем Лурк
И нахуй идешь
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